Re – Fundamental Beliefs of the Ahmadiyyah; A Rejoinder to the Rebuttal of the Qadiani

     BB Sanneh: let’s debate intellectually 

Recently I wrote an article about the fundamental beliefs of the Ahmaddiyyah/Qadianiyyah which was meted with a swift rebuttal. This rebuttal has actually painted to me a vivid picture of the average Ahmadi’s mindset. I honestly, did not think for once that any genuine follower of this group would go out of his way to belie facts that are well established from the writings of their founding father. It makes me conclude that either they are deceptive or blindfolded; Surah Baqarah verses 6 – 10 addresses both scenarios. From the gentleman’s rebuttal, it’s evident he couldn’t stay on substance but rather resorted to profanity and digression which has been their recourse to dissenting views. In fact this same uncouth and vulgar attacks were launched on Imam Fatty too when he made his stance unequivocally clear on Standard Newspaper just after the Talinding Cemetery incident. This is what the Quran they claim to staunchly believe in say about arguing with opponents: “Invite to the way of your Lord with wisdom and good instruction, and argue with them in a way that is best. Indeed, your Lord is most knowing of who has strayed from His way, and He is most knowing of who is [rightly] guided”. (Quran 16:125).

The general impression among the non Muslims and our secular minded Muslim brethren is that our opposition to Ahmadiyyat stems from religious intolerance. They fail to appreciate that our difference is fundamental doctrinal. Thus for the benefit of those with such perception and perhaps confused by the young man’s quotations and so called refutations, Mirza Ghulam Ahmad – the founder of the Ahmadiyyah movement had at least two distinct phases in his life which I have alluded to in my earlier article. One extended from his childhood into his early adult life. Being born in a Muslim family, during this period he was a devout Sunni Muslim. It was during this period that we saw such writings where he declared time and again his Muslim Sunni faith. Without any formal public education, he helped himself freely with various religious materials available to him forming his own opinions and conclusions. If there was any deviation from the established mainstream Islam doctrine, it was hardly noticeable.

During the later part of his life, his thoughts and beliefs exhibited a noticeable change and initially at least he made attempts to backtrack from his statements or writings to dampen the backlash of Muslims. However with the passage of time he became more and more defiant and audacious in his heretical views. It is this other aspect, this transformation, of Mirza Ghulam Ahmad’s personality which is hidden from the public eye and which is hardly ever mentioned and quoted in the propaganda literature of Qadianism Movement (Ahmadiyyah). The question is why are they hiding this part? If they believe in the fundamentals of Islam as we do, why don’t they denounce this blasphemy and kuffur of their founder and join mainstream Islam?

In my previous piece I deliberately left out sources because it honestly never occurred to me that someone would take me to a challenge for it. With the subsequent turn of events, I will try to systematically address the Qadiani’s refutations as best as I can. Praise be to Allah that most of these have been scholarly dealt with and answered by our venerable scholars in the past so I don’t take credit for anything as a very little student of knowledge.

Regarding their theology about Allah, albeit the writer claims that they believe in Allah just as we do, let him explain to us these snippets from the writings of Mirza Ghulam Ahmad or is he going to resort to their usual default response of branding it anti-Ahmadiyyah propaganda or lies and fabrications? Not a surprise because Mirza Ghulam Ahmad has called Ummah worst than that; “whoever is not sure of our success is in fact, a bastard. He wouldn’t be a legitimate man. (Roohani Khazain: V: 18, P: 31)”

I (Mirza Ghulam Ahmad) dreamt that I myself am God and I believe in this that I am (God). (Roohani Khazain v.5 P.564)
In one of my revelation (Kashf) I saw myself as God and I believe in it. (Kitab Al- Brae P: 85. Roohani Khazain V: 3 P: 103)

True God is He Who sent down His messenger in Qadiyan. (Dafe Balaa P: 11 Roohani Khazain V: 18 P: 231)

Once the Messiah (Christ) stated his condition that (In a state of revelation) he felt himself as if he were a woman and God expressed His desire of virility (God had intercourse with him). For the while a hint is sufficient. (Islamic Qurbani Tract No: 34 by Qazi Yar Muhammad)

Is this not sufficient for you folks to internalized your involvement with this movement and begin the search for true Islam? By the way, how come there is no single major renowned scholar of The Gambia starting with Oustas Omar Bun Jeng up to the contemporary ones who considers your Jamaat as part of Islam? Oops I forgot the only scholars in your eye view are those that are Qadianis, all others are illegitimate sons of prostitutes. (Auzhubillah). But only the sons of the prostitutes didn’t confirm & accept me. (Roohani Khazain: V: 5, P: 547-548).

Their belief about the Quran
The brother is trying to put a spanner on the spoke of the wheels in order to deceive the gullible and uninformed readers. Why is he offering D25,000 just for this point out all the so-called allegations? In any case I will list down here some of their verses and writings of Mirza Ghulam Ahmad and you the readers can judge if their Quran is different or not:

“I say with swearing upon God that I believe in these inspirations in the same way as I believe in Quran and other books of God. And just as I consider Quran undoubtedly and surely the book of God, similarly I believe that wahi (revelation) which descends upon me is the word of God.” (Haqeetqatul Wahi, Roohani Khazain vol.22 p.220)

Holy Prophet’s revelation also turned out to be false. (Roohani Khazain vol.3 p.472) – meaning the Quran is false.

He declared that Quran is also full of filthy words and enumerated several words in Quran as being filthy according to current standards. (Roohani Khazain vol.3 p.115-117)

Mirza’s WAHI told him: Verse 33:40″‘Muhammadur Rasoolullah wallazeena ma’ahoo ashiddaohoo’ ala alkuffar rohamao bainahum’ in this Wahi God has named me Muhammad and Rasoolullah.” (Roohani Khazain vol 18 pp.207)

“I have said several times that according to the verse (of Holy Quran) ‘wa akhareena minhum lamma yalhaqoo behim’ as Burooz I am the same Prophet, the Khatamul Anbiyyah, and 20 years ago God named me Mohammed and Ahmad in Braheen-e-Qadianism and declared me His Being.”

(Aik ghalti ka azala, Roohani Khazain vol. 18 p.212)
“Quran is God’s Book and the words of my mouth.” (Advertisement dated 15th March 1897, Roohani Khazain vol 22 p. 87)

“I believe in my WAHI (revelation) as I believe in Quran and Torah.” (Roohani Khazain vol.17 p.454)

“The basis for our claim is not Hadith but Quran and that WAHI which comes to us. Yes in support we also quote those Hadith which are according to Quran and DO NOT CONTRADICT MY WAHI. As for the REST OF THE HADITHs, I THROW THEM AWAY LIKE A WASTE PAPER.” (Roohani Khazain vol 19 p.140)

Verse [17:1] of Holy Quran: ‘Praise be to Allah, who took His Servant on the Night Journey from Masjid Haram to Masjid Aqsa’, its real and literal application is the Mosque built by father of Mirza Ghulam. (Collection of Advertisement vol.3 p.286)

Unless you belie the founder of your creed on these blasphemous claims, I don’t know how the statement “MY WAHI” would be construed as the Quran that was revealed to the Prophet Muhammad (pbuh). Now you tell us if Mirza Ghulam’s WAHI is the same as The Quran. May Allah remove the seal from your hearts, ears and eyes for you to see the truth and follow it. Therefore it is clear from the above that your kitab is definitely not our Quran. If you however, believe Mirza Ghulam Ahmad is a prophet after Muhammad (pbuh) then how do you explain Ahzab (33.40) “O believers, know that Muhammad (pbuh) is not the father of any man among you, but he is the Messenger of God and the seal of prophets”? If you have faith like you claim, then it should not be daunting for you to reject and denounce these conspicuous kuffur instead of adopting a denial approach. The one million dollar question still remains, what and why are you hiding?

Their belief about the Prophet Muhammad (pbuh)

The Qadianis had a pamphlet in circulation in various parts of the world, ‘Ahmad in praise of Muhammad’ which contains such quotations from the books of their founder, Mirza Ghulam Ahmad, trying to prove that he was intoxicated with the love of the Holy Prophet Muhammad (pbuh), full of praises for Allah, Holy Quran and Islam. These quotations portray a very beautiful character. However, the flip side of the coin from the writings of Mirza Ghulam Ahmad is as follows;
He was the second advent of Holy Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) and better and superior than the first coming (Roohani Khazain vol 16 pp.272)

“When I am the Holy Prophet incarnate and when all the accomplishments of Muhammad including the prophethood are reflected in my mirror of my shadiness, then who is the man who has claimed prophethood in a separate being?” (Ek Ghalti Ka Izala, Roohani Khazain, vol.18, p.212)

Holy Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) has come again in this world as Mirza Ghulam to propagate Islam. (Roohani Khazain vol.17 p.249)

Ahmadi should not differentiate between Mirza Ghulam and Hazrat Muhammad (pbuh) because “Anyone who differentiates between me and Mustafa (pbuh) has not seen me and not recognized me.” (Roohani Khazain vol 16 pp. 171).

Those who join Mirza’s Jama’at become a SAHABI of Rasoolullah. (Roohani Khazain vol 16 pp.258-259)

“I am Adam, I am Noah, I am Abraham, I am Isaac, I am Jacob, I am Ishmael, I am Moses, I am Jesus son of Mary, I am Mohammad (S.A.W).” (Roohani Khazain vol 22, p.521)

Again unless, I am dumb but these statements are very conspicuous and self explanatory. If you believe otherwise, why don’t you once again denounce and reject your so called prophet and hold on to the mainstream Islamic version?
With regard to declaring this group disbeliever, the writer’s total disregard for the scholarship of mainstream Islam is indeed too clear to comment on. In fact in addition to the World Muslim League fatawa and Fiqh council of Cape Town, the Islamic Republic of Pakistan also issued a fatawa in 1974 pronouncing this group as disbeliever and beyond the pale of Islam. In fact Mirza Ghulam Ahmad declared those who do not believe in him as disbelievers; – (Anwaar e Khilafat P. 99) it is our duty, not to take non-Ahmadi as Muslims, nor should we say prayers with them, because they deny one of the God’s Apostles. While the non-Ahmadi are infidels, so are their six-month old children also. And as infidels they cannot be buried in the graveyard of the Ahmadi. (Akbhar Paigham-e-Sulah: 16th of Aug 1936).

Umar ibn Al-Khattab, may Allah be pleased with him, said, “Verily, in the time of the Messenger of Allah, peace and blessings be upon him, the people would be judged by revelation, but the revelation has ended. Now we judge you according to your outward deeds. You cannot have double standards, one foot in Islam and another in kuffurr and expect us to believe you and count you as one of us. Even if we say hypothetically, these are not part of your creed like you claim, why do you still believe, follow and hold in high esteem a heretic founder whose kuffur is so obvious?

On a final note, I can promise you that sooner or later we will banish you from our graveyards unless you denounce this new religion of yours. We have lived with Christians far too long yet we never had these issues because the line has been clearly drawn. Similarly, you have your religion and we have ours so stop forcing yourselves on us when our creed and theology are fundamentally different. May Allah show the light of Islam to all those who have been led astray by this fraudulent propaganda in the name of Islam. May Allah protect the faith of all Muslims from such deceptions.

Ameen

BB SANNEH

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3 Comments

  1. Student of Muhammad

    BB Sanneh you take pride in presenting out of context sentences from the books of enemies of Ahmadiyyat as Beliefs of Ahmadis. Curling these from anti-ahmadi website and presenting them as if you have really read the books of its founder is really a dishonest act. what you failed to understand is that all theses allegations have been answered by Ahmad(AS) himself during his lifetime.

    The websites you have frequented yourself, which are full of garbage, and then in turn evidencing them as a proof of your research into beliefs of Ahmadis is very unfortunate. Justice demands that, in order to give a fair account of a set of beliefs, you visit the original source of that belief, in this case the Ahmadiyya official website – http://www.alislam.org. The Qurqn says;

    “O you who believe! Stand out firmly for justice, as witnesses to Allah, even as against yourselves, or your parents, or your kin, and whether it be (against) rich or poor: for Allah can best protect both. Follow not the lusts (of your hearts), lest you swerve, and if you distort justice or decline to do justice, verily Allah is well-acquainted with all that you do.” [Sûrah al-Nisâ’: 135]

    May Allah have mercy on you and your likes and pray that Allah shows you the truth or falsehood of Ahmadiyya.

  2. kitabou

    Your copy and paste does not impress me at all. What really impress me is your audacity to fabricate and misquote because all the points raised in this article are exhaustively dealt with and proven to be false.
    My question is. Whom are you trying to fool?
    May Allah grant you sight that you can see, may grant you ears and heart so that you can hear and understand. May he not let you groping in the dark.

  3. salman farasi

    Assalaamualeykum brother . My name is Salman Farasi and I am a member of the International Khatme Naboowat Forum. My dear brother we have disected mirza ghulam qadiani dajjal’s books page by page and since we understand urdu we have brought to light the blasphemies and kuffar of this dajjal that was hidden to our english and arabic speaking brothers and sisters. Please feel free to contact me on facebook . or email me on mislefaras2@gmail.com.wassalaam.

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